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Ukuqonda ukubonakala kwe-UTM

Abantu abaningi bahlala bebuza ukuthi ungashintsha kanjani ukuxhumanisa kwendawo ku-UTM. Sizosebenzisa ithuba lokuba wedwa kwaleli hhotela bese sichaza ngalokho esinakho ukuthi ukubonakala kwe-UTM kusebenza kanjani ukuqeda ukungabaza okuyisisekelo.

Ngincoma uma usuvele usazi kahle isihloko, ungachithi imizuzu yakho uzikhathaza ... kepha ungasixhumanisa nebhulogi yakho :). Akuyona inhloso yalokhu okuthunyelwe ukukhuluma ngokuqagela, ngoba kunezinye izindatshana eziningi, ngokuyisisekelo kuyathakazelisa ukuchaza ukuphathwa kwezixhumanisi, sizosebenzisa iGoogle Earth ukukhombisa izibonelo.

Izixhumanisi zendawo

kwendawo bavela kusuka wonke ngezigaba njengoba ubungeke nge-apula, wenze mpo ukusikeka meridians (okuthiwa ubude) nokuncishiswa ovundlile ukwenza okuhambisanayo (okuthiwa zindawo).

Ukuze sibhale izilinganiso, siqala ukusuka e-equator, enyakatho noma eningizimu ukusuka ku-zero ukuya ku-90 degrees emipulini, futhi la ma-halves amabili abizwa ngokuthi ama-hemispheres.

Maqondana nobude obude, lezi ziqala ukufakwa ohlwini kusuka kumeridiya waseGreenwich obizwa ngokuthi yi-zero meridian empumalanga, zibalwa zaze zafinyelela kuma-degree angama-180, lapho le meridian efanayo ihlukanisa umhlaba (obizwa ngokuthi yi-antemeridian), le ngxenye ibizwa ngokuthi " EMpumalanga ". Bese enye ingxenye ibizwa ngeNtshonalanga, imelwe ngokujwayelekile yi-W (entshonalanga), ama-meridians asaqala kusuka eGreenwich kepha aqonde kolunye uhlangothi kusuka ku-zero kuya ku-180 degrees.

U-geographical 1

Ngakho ukuhlanganiswa eSpain kungaba yi-Latitude 39 N nobude be-3 W, ukuhlanganiswa ePeru kungaba yi-Latitude 10 S nobude be-74 W.

Le ndlela yokunquma izixhumanisi ezingahlobene nokuphakama ngaphezu kogu lolwandle, ngoba iyi-vector eqala ukusuka maphakathi nomhlaba iye phezulu, lokhu ukuqagela okusetshenziswa yiGoogle Earth, futhi nansi indlela yezixhumanisi ezisetshenziswa ngamafayela we-kml, ngokungeziwe kufakwa i-spheroid yesethenjwa, okuyindlela yokulinganisa ubuso bomhlaba ngezinhloso zokulinganisa. I-Google isebenzisa i-WGS84 njenge-spheroid yesethenjwa (yize zikhona amathuluzi akuvumela ukuthi ufake izixhumanisi ze-UTM ku-Google Earth). Inzuzo enkulu yalokhu kuqagela ukuthi i-coordinate ihlukile ebusweni bomhlaba, nakuba ukuphatha imisebenzi yokubala amabanga noma ama-bearings akwenzeki "kubantu abangewona ama-geographer".

I-UTM iqondisa

Izixhumanisi ze-UTM zisekelwe emcabangweni wokucabangela i-reference spheroid esilinganisweni sezilwandle kusukela ekuqalisweni kwe-cylindrical I-Traverso de Mercator. Umhlaba uhlala uhlukaniswe ngama-meridians, ngezigaba eziyisithupha zamadijithi akha ingqikithi yama-60, lawa abizwa ngama-zones. Ukubalwa kwalezi zindawo kuqala kusuka kuma-antemeridian, kusuka ku-zero kuya ku-60 kusuka entshonalanga kuya empumalanga.

Izingxenye ezikhiqiza ukufana zisuka ku-84 S ziye ku-80 N, futhi zibalwa ngezinhlamvu ezisuka ku-C ziye ku-X ("Mina" no "O" akhishiwe), isigaba ngasinye sineziqu eziyi-8 zobubanzi ngaphandle kwe-X enama-degree ayi-12.

I-A, B, Y, Z isetshenziswe ngendlela ekhethekile yokuthi i-polar iphelile; I-Google ayifaki le nxenye ngoba idinga ukulinganisa okungapheliyo endaweni enesithakazelo kuphela kubhere be-polar :).

U-geographical 1

U-geographical 1Ezingqayizivele zezingxenye ze-Son 60 ze-6 degrees ngayinye, futhi

  • I-Mexico iphakathi kwezindawo ze-11 ne-16
  • I-Honduras ku-16 futhi iyingxenye ye-17
  • I-Peru phakathi kwe-17 ne-19
  • I-Spain phakathi kwe-29 ne-31.

Ukulinganiselwa kwe-spheroid yesithenjwa kufinyelela olwandle kwenza i-arc eyenziwe yile migqa ibe nezilinganiso ezifana ncamashi neqiniso lesilinganiso sendawo. Le spheroid yesethenjwa, ngaphambili (eyaduma kakhulu eLatin America) kwakuyi-NAD27, njengamanje i-NAD83 isetshenziswa kabanzi, eyaziwa ngabaningi njenge-WGS84. Ngokuba nenkomba ehlukene evundlile, ama-grid womabili ama-spheroid ahlukile.

Ngakho-ke indawo inoxhumano lokuqala x, y, esimweni seCentral America, umkhawulo phakathi kwezindawo 15 no-16 unokuxhumanisa okulinganiselwa ku-178,000 futhi kukhuphuke kuye ngaphezulu noma ngaphansi kuka-820,000. Ububanzi bokuxhumanisa bufana nendawo ngayinye, ebangeni elifanayo kodwa siyacacisa, akuyona igridi ye-orthogonal kepha ngezinhloso zokulinganisa kwendawo, kuyafana. Imingcele phakathi kwezindawo iyavala, kepha konke kuqala kusuka ku-eksisi emaphakathi, lapho kune-meridian eqonde mpo ubude bayo obungu-300,000 obaziwa ngokuthi "empumalanga yamanga", ukuze kuthi ngakwesobunxele nangakwesokudla kwale meridian kungabikho amayunithi okungekuhle.
I-latitude (Y ukuxhumanisa), iqala kusuka ku-0.00 e-equator iphinde ikhuphuke enyakatho yezingxenye enezixhumanisi eduze ne-9,300,000.

Indawo ye-16 utm

Amamephu esiwaziyo ngezinhloso ze-cadastral, ngezikali 1: 10,000 noma i-1: 1,000 suka kusukela ekuhlukaniseni kule ndawo, ekuthunyelwe okulandelayo sizochaza ukuthi lokhu kuhlukaniswa kufika kanjani.

U-geographical 1

Nokho, izixhumanisi Geographic, ezifana 16N 35W uhlukile, a UTM Ukudidiyela njengabaphuma X = 664,235 Y = 1,234,432 kulingana iphuzu elilodwa eziphindiwe 60 izindawo ekuyi-latitude efanayo, kokubili e-North naseNingizimu; Kudinga indawo kanye nensimu ukuchaza lapho kungokwakhe.

Ngemuva kwalokho zombili izixhumanisi zizohlala nge-reference spheroid. Endabeni yokuxhumanisa kwe-UTM, uma ikwi-NAD27 ngeke ilingane ne-WGS84 ngoba ama-meshes akha igridi awaqondananga. Ukuguqula ukuxhumanisa kwe-UTM kube ukuxhumanisa kweJografi noma okuphambene nalokho kunezinhlelo zokusebenza ezikusizayo, njenge Izifanekiso ze-Geofumed.

Kubalulekile ukuqonda ukuthi ngokwesiko izinhlelo ze-CAD bezingasekeli ukuqagela, okufana ne-AutoCAD noma iMicrostation, yi-AutoCAD Map3D noma iMicrostation Geographics kuphela eyenziwe (Kusuka ku-AutoCAD 2009 neMicrostation 8.9 XM eziyenzayo). Lapho usebenzisa ibalazwe elibhekiswe ku-AutoCAD, elinamakhompiyutha we-UTM, esinakho imephu ngaphakathi kwendiza yaseCartesian, kodwa kufanele sikuqonde ukuthi lezo zixhumanisi ezifanayo zikhona kwezinye izindawo ezingama-60 kusibalo esifanayo kuzo zombili izindawo ezisenyakatho naseningizimu; yingakho kuba nzima ukusebenza ku-UTM ngezakhiwo okuphakathi kwamabili izindawo.

Ukuxhumana ne-UTM, i-Google Earth ne-Excel izixhumanisi, lezi zixhumanisi zingasiza kakhulu:

UTM izixhumanisi ku-Google Earth

Guqula izixhumanisi ze-Geographical ukuya ku-UTM nge-Excel

Guqula ukuhlela kwe-UTM kuya ku-Geographical ne-Excel

Golgi Alvarez

Umbhali, umcwaningi, uchwepheshe wamamodeli wokuphathwa komhlaba. Ubambe iqhaza ekucabangeni nasekusetshenzisweni kwamamodeli afana nalawa: Isistimu Kazwelonke Yokulawulwa Kwezakhiwo i-SINAP e-Honduras, Imodeli Yokuphatha Yomasipala Abahlangene e-Honduras, Imodeli Edidiyelwe Yokuphathwa Kwe-Cadastre - Registry e-Nicaragua, Uhlelo Lokuphatha lwe-Territory SAT e-Colombia. . Umhleli webhulogi yolwazi lwe-Geofumadas kusukela ngo-2007 futhi umdali we-AulaGEO Academy ehlanganisa izifundo ezingaphezu kwe-100 ngezihloko ze-GIS - CAD - BIM - Digital Twins.

Izihloko ezihlobene Nalesi

58 Amazwana

  1. Kuncike kunoma iyiphi isofthiwe okufanele uyibuke ngeso lengqondo.
    Lokhu kulungiswa okudingayo kudingekile ngaphezu kwalokho kudinga indawo, ngoba iphindaphindwa ezindaweni zonke ze-60, kokubili ezindaweni ezisenyakatho naseningizimu.

  2. Nginezixhumanisi futhi ngidinga ukwazi indawo, yini okufanele ngiyenze
    I-N1300113 E 1040271. THANKA

  3. Angikwazi ukubona isithombe salokhu okukhulisayo. Kodwa kufanele uqonde ukuthi izixhumanisi ze-utm aziyona eyingqayizivele, ziphindaphindiwe endaweni ngayinye e-latitude efanayo.

  4. Indlela engisebenza ngayo ku-georeferencing Ngingumkhawulo wemingcele phakathi kwe-13 ne-14 ,,,. ifayela kwedolobha endaweni 13 futhi elinye ifayela kwedolobha endaweni 14 nami hit ku ifayela elilodwa ukubona ukuthi linjani, umbuzo wami ukuthi ziqhelelene kakhulu lapho empeleni babonke? kakade ukuhlola google umhlaba nakho konke uphelele, kodwa ukuthi zikude futhi ngokusobala njengoba they were idolobha nemuva nga phambili we 13 14 endaweni lapho empeleni akunjalo

  5. Sawubona. Kuzoba ukuthi ungangisiza ngalokhu okulandelayo: ensimini ngivame ukuthatha amaphuzu nge-GPS, ku-UTM bese ngiphansi kwedatha ukwenza uhlelo lweplanethi ku-AutoCAD, kepha lapho ngifuna ukuthekelisa kumdwebo we-cadastral, iphuzu elilodwa kuphela elivelayo kepha hhayi umdwebo ophelele, kungani le …… i-Ecuador

  6. Kulungile ukubekezela kwakho nokuphana ukwabelana ngolwazi lwakho, Geofumed!

  7. Indlela Ngathola amaphuzu wami 2 izimayini grid inikezwe ezimayini yokunivumela eBolivia uma izincwadi bami 56 psad futhi izixhumanisi yami kukhona WGS 84 sicela uma ungangisiza ngoba umakhalekhukhwini GPS ngiya desplasado eside

  8. UFernando Ojeda NgoFebhuwari, i-2017 ku
    Ngangifuna ukuguqula izixhumanisi zentaba-mlilo yasePapocatépetl eya ku-UTM, okuyizi:
    I-Latitude 19 ° 13'20.00 "
    Ubude 98 ° 37¨40.00 "

    Futhi uhlelo lokubala olungcono aluvumeli i-98 ° ubude.
    Kufanele ngiqhubeke kanjani uma engitshela ukuthi akufanele ngidlule i-80 ne-90, uma idatha i-9

    I-UTM Z14 WGS84
    2125458.053 539124.2666 14

  9. Ngangifuna ukuguqula izixhumanisi zentaba-mlilo yasePapocatépetl eya ku-UTM, okuyizi:
    I-Latitude 19 ° 13'20.00 "
    Ubude 98 ° 37¨40.00 "

    Futhi uhlelo lokubala olungcono aluvumeli i-98 ° ubude.
    Kufanele ngiqhubeke kanjani uma engitshela ukuthi akufanele ngidlule i-80 ne-90, uma idatha i-98?

  10. Ingabe omunye angangisiza ukuthi ngilandele ubukhulu besakhiwo kumephu ??? Nginamaphuzu we-4 wezingxenyana kanye nalawo ubude. Uma othile ekunikezela, ngizokuthumelela ulwazi enginakho futhi ngizokubonga kakhulu. Ngiyabonga

  11. Sawubona Bruno.
    Asicaci ngalokhu okusiphakamisayo:
    Mhlawumbe uma ubeka imininingwane ngokuningiliziwe: Ingabe uyisikwele ukuthi uzokwenzani? Ingabe isibalo singavamile?
    Ingabe uzolihlukanisa kumephu?

  12. Ngingu entsha ukusingatha GPS kanye namabalazwe ungibuze isibonelo ukuthatha ezinye amaphuzu e x, y (4 amaphuzu) nesakhiwo entabeni, uma indawo igcwele 4 amahektha futhi kufanele kube ngeembuyabuyelelo 100 ngamunye x, futhi Uyacelwa, shayela. Siyabonga (bruficarrasco123-4qoutlook.com)

  13. Ngeke ngazi ukuthi ngiyiqonde kanjani, ngokusho koguquli oyisebenzisayo. Khumbula ukuthi uma umguquli enempumalanga yamanga efakiwe, ngeke neze ihambisane ne-UTM evamile, yilokho okuboniswa yi-Google.

  14. Sawubona! Ngithemba ukuthi ungangisiza, ngoba ngizamile konke futhi akuphumeli:
    Ngizama ukuguqula ezinye izixhumanisi ze-geographic zibe yi-UTM, ngisebenzisa amaningana wabaguqula abakhona kwi-intanethi. Ekuqaleni ngacabanga ukuthi kwakungalungile, kodwa ngiyibheke futhi okufanayo kuya kubo bonke.
    Ngibheka izixhumanisi zezinye zezintaba-mlilo eMexico; Ngisebenzisa i-Google Earth kulokhu futhi inginika izixhumanisi zendawo. Inkinga ukuthi lapho ngiwaguqulela ku-UTM, ngisuka ku-zone 13 kuya ku-14 futhi lokhu kushintsha ngokuphelele izixhumanisi, ku-"x", kuze kube yilapho intaba embozwe yiqhwa yase-Colima (eseduze nePacific Ocean) ibonisa. ngixhumane nabangu-600,000, kuyilapho i-Nevado de Toluca (emaphakathi nezwe) inginika amanani angu-400,000. Angiqondi ukuthi kungani.
    Siyabonga kusengaphambili

  15. Ngizokunika isibonelo esingenakufanekisa ukuze uqonde. Cabanga spheroid kwenzeka ezingeni kolwandle, omunye odlulayo 200 amamitha, enye ukhuphuka 1000 amamitha. Wonke umuntu kuyinto spheroid reference, futhi iphuzu elilodwa ilingana e igridi ngamunye kodwa hhayi, ngakho UTM Ukudidiyela iphuzu kungase kuhluke Datum ezahlukene

  16. Lokhu kubonakala kanjani ukuthi usebenzisa i-datum ethile

  17. njengoba ngibala ibanga elingamakhilomitha (isibalo) ku-projection utm

  18. Bona iphuzu endaweni oyithakazelisayo ku-Goolgle Earth. Uma kungasenyakatho ye-equator, yi-17 enyakatho. Uma iphansi, yi-Zone 17 eningizimu.

  19. Sawubona ungangisiza ngombuzo:
    Landa DEM okungukuthi e WGS84, ngidinga kuphunyeliswe kuwo UTM yangakithi cwaningo eningizimu ntshonalanga Colombia (Nariño), umbuzo uwukuthi, okuyinto endaweni ngisebenzisa ukwenza UTM lelivakalako, Zone 17s 17n Caravan.
    Ngiyabonga ngencazelo yakho futhi ngithethelele ukungabi namuntu ngale ndaba.

  20. Yebo, angikuqondi.
    Sithumelele u-UTM ukuqondisa ukuze ubone, ngoba angikwazi ukubona ngeso lengqondo inkinga kahle.

  21. Lapho ngingena okokuqala ngqa, ngiwela olwandle, eGulf of Mexico. Usebenzisa i-WGS84
    Kulaba abalandelayo, okuyi-UTM, udinga ukuchaza ukuthi yiyiphi indawo abayiyo.

    Ngokuqinisekile, ukuba nemibono eminingi futhi uqondise izinhlelo ofuna ukuchaza ukuthi ubani owathathe.

  22. Ngiyaqonda ukuthi uthatha enkingeni ukuchaza konke lokhu, mina mathupha ukuthola kuncomeka kakhulu futhi esiyigugu, clarifier, kodwa kukhona izincazelo usebenzisa ukuthi angikwazi baqonde nalwazi yami. Nginombuzo mayelana netafula elilandelayo omunye umuntu angethule kimi. Ungangitshela ngalolu datha owethule ngezansi, yikuphi uhlelo lokuxhumanisa abangabakhona nokuthi yiyiphi i-datum (uma unayo) isetshenziswa. Siyabonga kusengaphambili, ngisalindile.

    I-longitude ye-East Latitude (X) eNyakatho (Y)
    -92.170660948 19.294503558 587135.5 2133622.5
    -92.170643520 19.294488976 587137.4 2133620.9
    -92.170620402 19.294469407 587139.8 2133618.8
    -92.170618372 19.294467695 587140.0 2133618.6
    -92.170614312 19.294464279 587140.5 2133618.2
    -92.170610252 19.294460862 587140.9 2133617.8
    -92.170597249 19.294449921 587142.3 2133616.6

  23. Ake sibone, chaza kabanzi
    Yini oyisebenzisayo?

    Ingabe usho ukusho ukuthi ukwenza ukuguqulwa okuphambene kukunika i-latitude ehlukile?

  24. Bheka, converters zisebenzisa UTM emabanga kanye El Salvador izixhumanisi kukhona ikuphi inkululeko 89 13 ° ° ngisebenzisa endaweni 16 nasenyakatho Nenkabazwe kodwa ukuguqula amamitha kunginika 89 2 ° ° emkhathini bangase bangakwenzi.

  25. Sawubona, I-CONAGUA ingicela “Uhlelo olunezilinganiso nemingcele yendawo ekuzixhumanisi ze-UTM” ingabe ukhona owaziyo ongangihlinzeka ngale sevisi?

  26. Post Excellent, qhubeka nale ndlela entsha yokufundisa labo abafuna ukufunda noma ukukhumbula lezi zihloko.

  27. Amanani akhululwe, yiziphi amayunithi? Ngisebenza nge-algebra ukuthi ngazi ibanga eliphakathi kwamaphoyinti amabili futhi imiphumela ingamamitha?

  28. Ngicabanga ukuthi ngqo ku-AutoCAD ayikwazi. Mhlawumbe i-Civil3D inento ethile, kodwa ngokuvamile kufanele uyiguqule.

  29. Ngingayishintsha kanjani i-lat / lon izixhumanisi eziya ku-UTM ku-autocad efanayo ngithemba ukuthi ungisize kule sibonga

  30. konke okuthakazelisayo kakhulu futhi ngase ngikhohliwe konke manje ngendodakazi yami engiyithulisa ubuchopho ngiyabonga.

  31. Yebo kuyinkinga evamile kakhulu futhi ubuthakathaka besistimu ye-UTM. Kukhona okukhethwa kukho, kodwa kuxhomeke ukuthi yiziphi izinhloso ezidingekayo.

    Ngenhloso yomsebenzi, okunye ukuhambisa empumalanga yangamanga, okusho ukuthi i-central meridian yendawo iyahamba. Lokhu kuvunyelwe yizinhlelo, ngokukhetha ukushintsha uhlelo lokuhlola.

    Enye indlela ukusebenzisana nama-latitudes nama-longitudes kule ndawo, noma iziza ezithintekayo ekugcineni kwendawo. Khona-ke, ngezinhloso zokuphrinta, kulula ukunikeza idatha ngale ndlela ukuze kungabikho ukudideka.

  32. Kakhulu ngezizathu ezithakazelisayo futhi eziyisisekelo eziphathelene nale ndaba, kodwa umbuzo wami: uma Nginombuzo indawo ukukala futhi lokhu encentra ezindaweni ezimbili womhlaba, njengoba ngethula ebalazweni UTM izixhumanisi, Uma mina cabanga endaweni eyodwa nje noma kokubili?
    noma ngamanye amagama ngimelela kanjani indawo elinganisiwe ku-TRASLAPO AREA?

  33. Nokho, angiqondi yonke into, kodwa kumele ubone ukuthi ndawo, njengoba Zacatecas uku 13 futhi 14 izindawo.

    Uma kungekho olufana indawo uzowathola alindele, indlela kuphela ukuphenya kuyinto ezathatha idatha, kwakungase kubonakale wasebenzisa elungiselelwe zamanga lokhu kusho ukuthi umugqa owehla nembulunga okuyi-central x = 500,000 has a ukufuduka.

  34. ukuthi kuhle kangakanani ukuthi lesi sikhala sikwazi ukukhipha ukungabaza, ngiye ngithatha amadigri ngokusebenzisana i-utm futhi lokhu yisibonelo.

    faka izixhumanisi zesitifiketi sephasela
    nale datha
    x = 636,130.00 y = 2,656,898.00
    futhi ngithola i-24.01828298 -103.6614938

    phezulu lapho sihle, umbuzo uwukuthi:

    lapho izixhumanisi zikhona x = 507258 y = 2658745
    Uma siseZacatecas kanye nezixhumanisi ezibalwe ngenhla, ziyangithumela kwenye indawo futhi intaba.
    kucatshangwa ukuthi izixhumanisi ezangena zivela eziqhingini, yinkinga engingazi ukuthi ihlobo lini le-GPS noma i-utm format ethathe, ngoba ngingakwazi ukuhlola izinhlobo ezahlukene ze-utm nezici zazo.

    Siyabonga ngokunaka kwakho.

  35. Kwangenza ngithakazelise, ngingathanda ukukubona kangcono eMhlabeni

  36. ngiyabonga galvarezhn, ingabe uyazi noma yiluphi uhlelo, isimiso noma okufanayo okukwenza lokho engikubonisayo ngokubambisana kwezindawo ezimbili? Ngiyidinga ngohlelo lokusebenza ku-autocad.

    imikhonzo

  37. Sawubona Ismael
    Ukudweba usebenzisa izixhumanisi ze-UTM ezifundeni ezigaqana nezindawo, kuyadingeka ukuthi kushintshwe impumalanga yamanga esenkabeni yendawo, lokhu kungenxa yokuthi uhlelo lokuxhumanisa lwe-UTM lwenziwa ukubona izindawo zasendaweni ... futhi lokho kubuthakathaka okungenani ngaphansi kwalezo zimo.

    Lolu hlelo lokusebenza akulona lokho

  38. Lolu hlelo luwusizo ekudwebeni i-autocad phakathi kwezindawo ezimbili? ngoba i-utm iqondisa izindinganiso eziphindaphindiwe ezenziwa yi-autocad. Ngicabanga ukuthi uma ufaka izixhumanisi zendawo futhi ubonisa indawo, uhlelo lwenza inyunyana yalezi zindawo zombili? in izixhumanisi utm Yebo

  39. engacabangeki, ngakho-ke singaqonda ukuthi ungaqala kuphi.
    Izinhlelo zokubhekisela ziyinto eyodwa kanye nohlobo lokuhlelwa kwesinye.
    Uhlelo lokudweba imidwebo kufanele lukhulume kokubili, njalo.

  40. Uxolo Yorel, kunzima ukubukeka kahle kuwo wonke umuntu, kepha uma ungasichazela ukuthi yikuphi kulokhu obezama ukuba yisiwula singakudlulisela kwamanye amabhulogi awachaza ngendlela engenangqondo ... mhlawumbe izinga lale bhulogi alikho kuwe futhi siyaliqonda

    ... yikuphi kwalokhu ... isibuko noma okunye ...

    futhi ungakhathazeki, ngiyaziqonda ngokucacile incazelo yegama elithi troll

  41. Lokhu kwezixhumanisi kungivimbela ukubaluleka kwami ​​ngoba siyazi ukuthi sihlala kuphi

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